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Old 08-02-2017, 07:03 AM   #1
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Flash ECU-Convince me!

So I was considering sending the ECU to be flashed and it got me to thinking...always a scary thing.
By the time I pay for the flash and shipping I am in the $400-$450usd ballpark.
I found an company in Canada that sells the flash units and it would cost me $445usd.

https://www.baysideperformance.ca/10...4sg81scdaq8c62

So...should I send the unit away and wait or buy my own flash unit?
If I buy it and flash at least one more ECU I have started to make a profit.
Interested to hear your thought and opinions.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:24 AM   #2
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Are you looking at ivan or Vcyclenut?

Vcycles is only $200usd, and I am more than pleased with the results. Without any prior flashing knowledge or dyno to test your results, I think spending the $445 for the tool would be not be wise.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:28 AM   #3
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It is $200 here as well with slip on only.
https://ftecu.com/shop/10-14-yamaha-...shing-service/
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:38 AM   #4
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my buddy bought their "custom" flash and he likes it for his gsx1000
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:41 AM   #5
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Go with Ivan. I've mailed stuff back and forth with him from Canada several times, in my opinion he is the best and the little bit of extra shipping costs is worth it. When I bring my gen 2 home in a couple weeks i'll be sending the ecu out to him.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:45 AM   #6
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depends on how much the OP wants to spend, flash tune and vcycle do not require a power commander, saving $200-400 depending on what PC you get.

Contact Ivan, vcycle, and flashtune. Feel them out. That's what I ended up doing.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:48 AM   #7
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A good flash is well worth it, removing the power restriction in the 1st three gears, optimizes the ignition timing, smooths it out a ton and really makes the engine fun to flog. Every time I take my bike out, it sees 10,000 rpm. It just begs for it now, and I am weak that way

I have Ivans on mine, very pleased with it.
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Old 08-02-2017, 11:27 AM   #8
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It completely transforms the bike into a new machine, better in every way. That'd be well worth it to me for a few hundred bucks.



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Go with Ivan. I've mailed stuff back and forth with him from Canada several times, in my opinion he is the best and the little bit of extra shipping costs is worth it. When I bring my gen 2 home in a couple weeks i'll be sending the ecu out to him.

Onto the Gen2 now eh?!
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Old 08-02-2017, 11:42 AM   #9
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It completely transforms the bike into a new machine, better in every way. That'd be well worth it to me for a few hundred bucks.






Onto the Gen2 now eh?!
Yep, but keeping the 09 as well as a toy which also has Ivan's flash to keep things relevant..
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:19 PM   #10
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Got my 06 done, somehow the engine is smoother, easier to modulate, has more power, and returns better mileage by 2-3mpg. That was through Ivan; never rode any bike with a different flash so can't comment on them.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:54 PM   #11
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I have an '06 Ivans flashed and an '09 which is stock except for slip on and airbox mod............

Night and day difference. The '06 is so much easier to ride its ridiculous. In a corner no lurch, out of corner it rockets correctly. I cannot say the gas mileage is any better as I hammer it so much harder on the '09. I have no knowledge of v cycle........... hear good reviews. I will say that Ivan developed it and yes it does use a PC. I think he deserves the knod for putting in the work and giving me flawless fueling.

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Old 08-02-2017, 06:02 PM   #12
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Well I think the general consensus is to get the flash done and I could not agree more as I went through Vcyclenut and could not be happier. But to answer your original question about doing it yourself for me that is something I would not care to deal with just to potentially make a couple bucks and avoid a few days of downtime. I would rather leave it to the experts who have the experience and know how and also have access to info and maps from countless dyno runs on similiar modded machines. So I would send it out. I don't think you can go wrong with either Vcyclenut or Ivan. If you do decide to go about it on your own please post back with results as I would be very curious to hear how it went.
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:11 PM   #13
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Well I think the general consensus is to get the flash done and I could not agree more as I went through Vcyclenut and could not be happier. But to answer your original question about doing it yourself for me that is something I would not care to deal with just to potentially make a couple bucks and avoid a few days of downtime. I would rather leave it to the experts who have the experience and know how and also have access to info and maps from countless dyno runs on similiar modded machines. So I would send it out. I don't think you can go wrong with either Vcyclenut or Ivan. If you do decide to go about it on your own please post back with results as I would be very curious to hear how it went.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:09 PM   #14
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I am fixin' to send mine to Ivan's. From receiving to out the door, how long did that take? Couple of days? Has anyone also sent thier power programmer V with it to get it set too? Going to go for a ride this weekend, then ship this shit off... lol! Will return as badass shit!
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I am fixin' to send mine to Ivan's. From receiving to out the door, how long did that take? Couple of days? Has anyone also sent thier power programmer V with it to get it set too? Going to go for a ride this weekend, then ship this shit off... lol! Will return as badass shit!
About that.........

There are also maps available here for the PC5 although I havent wanted to screw with it. Again, night and day difference. I have got to get my '09 sorted so I ride it more.
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I am fixin' to send mine to Ivan's. From receiving to out the door, how long did that take? Couple of days? Has anyone also sent thier power programmer V with it to get it set too? Going to go for a ride this weekend, then ship this shit off... lol! Will return as badass shit!
Just send the ECU. He gives you a map to use if you like.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:01 AM   #17
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Willing to bet most people couldnt tell the difference between a vcycle and an ivan flash. If you care about customer service and saving hundreds, do yourself a favor...send it off to David aka: Vcyclenut.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:21 AM   #18
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Im really regretting not convincing my roommate to get the ivans so I could physically compare the two and give a good assumption. As far as I can tell no one on here has ridden two bikes with the exact same mods except for different flashes to give an accurate review.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:57 AM   #19
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Im really regretting not convincing my roommate to get the ivans so I could physically compare the two and give a good assumption. As far as I can tell no one on here has ridden two bikes with the exact same mods except for different flashes to give an accurate review.
I have rode both flashs in the same configuration on my 2015. I had the the vc flash first and posted up that I still felt the on off transition was rough, putting the tps to 20 helped but did not eliminate it . I got a Ivan's flash ecu on here and even running a zero map on the pcfc it was smoother running and the on off transition is nearly seamless. I am sure the vc flash could be made better with a little cleanup of the fueling or even better maybe no fueling changes and let the pcfc handle it. I did appreciate the speedo calibration and the all inclusive nature and value of the vc flash. Just two different ways of trying to get to the same spot. I am now running some of the map pack maps with the Ivan's ecu and am happy with it. Never tried any Ivan's maps as I don't have access to them.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:42 AM   #20
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So you are saying that IT IS possible to have the same ECU reflashed by Ivan after it has already been reflashed by vcyclenut?
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