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Old 07-30-2017, 05:06 AM   #241
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Just got a 2014 S1000RR shock, why does it look a lot longer than photos above in post #232??
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Old 07-30-2017, 11:03 AM   #242
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Looks like the 2014 Sachs shocks for the S1000RR, are much longer, than the 2012-2013 units. You will need much different dog bones, to make that shock work for you.
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Old 07-30-2017, 03:27 PM   #243
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The picture in that post said 2014 but maybe it wasn't a 2014. The guy I bought it from said he had FZR400 dogbones but I passed on those because I thought the stock ones would work
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Old 07-30-2017, 04:57 PM   #244
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The picture in that post said 2014 but maybe it wasn't a 2014.


Right on! It's worth double checking.

I had the same thing happen to me on Ebay. I found an R6 shock for a great price and even private messaged the seller to make sure. The guy swore up and down that it was the correct Yamaha R6 shock and IT WAS NOT!



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Old 08-01-2017, 04:15 PM   #245
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I tried to put on the shock and it won't even fit,

Dean, I should have bought yours, I tried to save a little but didn't realize a 2014 wouldn't fit. Previous post on last page showing 2 shocks must not be from a 2014
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:54 PM   #246
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I tried to put on the shock and it won't even fit,

Dean, I should have bought yours, I tried to save a little but didn't realize a 2014 wouldn't fit. Previous post on last page showing 2 shocks must not be from a 2014

Yeah, i did not want to say anything to you, about that shock, other than it looks longer.

I'am guessing in 2014+, B.M.W. went with a much longer shock from Sachs.

The adjustment part on the top of the shock, looks different, also. Looks that way to me, from the photo of the FZ1 o.e.m. unit, and that B.M.W. shock.

Okay, that being said, i still have two 2012 B.M.W. shocks in stock, and i know those fit, because i ran one of them temporarily, to make sure they did fit.

I am sorry that shock you have, does not fit.

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Old 08-02-2017, 09:38 AM   #247
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I googled the numbers on the shock and I believe I have a 2015 (not 2014) shock, either way it doesn't work and I'll try to sell it on ebay. Dean, I may take you up on that, I'll send you a PM once I sell. I put the stock one back on for now
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Old 08-02-2017, 10:00 AM   #248
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I googled the numbers on the shock and I believe I have a 2015 (not 2014) shock, either way it doesn't work and I'll try to sell it on ebay. Dean, I may take you up on that, I'll send you a PM once I sell. I put the stock one back on for now

Okay, just let me know.

Looking at that Sachs shock in the photo, the spring preload ramp, is much lower on the shock body, then on the 2012 Sachs shocks i have. Should think that means the shock body on the shock you have, is about an inch+ longer, than on a 2012 shock. That would explain, why the shock will not fit, FZ1's.

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Old 08-21-2017, 08:46 AM   #249
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Dean, a buddy needs a shock for his FZ1. Do you still have one of the BMW S1000 2012-13 available? Are new dogbones necessary? (he wants to retain stock ride height) Thanks for any help!
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:20 AM   #250
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P.m. received, and a p.m., just sent to you about shock kits.

Been on the road on two wheels, hence the late reply to you.

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Old 01-12-2018, 06:23 PM   #251
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Does anyone have dims on the shock eye to eye? Just got a bwm shock and want to make sure its not the 14+ but i havnt pulled the stock shock to compare yet.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:11 AM   #252
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I believe about 12" is what you want, the one I had was 13 1/2" so it was way too long
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Old 08-30-2018, 03:37 PM   #253
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my .02 Cents

I have done the S1000rr shock upgrade to my '03 FZ1 and have continued
to attempt to improve the handling.
Living in the Blue Ridge mountains and riding the Parkway often got me lazy about upgrading the suspension.

I'm in Colorado Springs for the summer, and let me tell you, the roads are a mess!!! Pot holes, huge expansion joints and uneven seams...

So I gave the old fizzie a treat, changed the fork oil and installed 1.0mm/kg racetech fork springs. Prelaod full out. Compression settings about 1/3 the way in from full out and rebound about 1/3 out from full in.
The front end now soaks up and floats over expansion joints.
Front end dive on brakes is vastly improved also.

This made me realize how harsh the rear shock was.

I have a high speed road with square edged expansion joints about every 100' It is a real spine breaker.
I had originally installed the Honda spring on the BMW shock, but it was too stiff and overwhelmed the damping.
Back to the stock BMW spring and spending some time making adjustments
has me in the ballpark.
Preload 3 rounds in from full out. High speed compression 3. Low speed compression 6-7. Damping 6-7.

BTW: I'm close to 230lbs and my girlfriend near 180. Adding 2 clicks of compression is all that's needed when she gets on.

Yes, the bike uses a lot of travel when 2 up. But if your not using it all occasionally, your too stiff.
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:52 AM   #254
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I have done the S1000rr shock upgrade to my '03 FZ1 and have continued
to attempt to improve the handling.
Living in the Blue Ridge mountains and riding the Parkway often got me lazy about upgrading the suspension.

I'm in Colorado Springs for the summer, and let me tell you, the roads are a mess!!! Pot holes, huge expansion joints and uneven seams...

So I gave the old fizzie a treat, changed the fork oil and installed 1.0mm/kg racetech fork springs. Prelaod full out. Compression settings about 1/3 the way in from full out and rebound about 1/3 out from full in.
The front end now soaks up and floats over expansion joints.
Front end dive on brakes is vastly improved also.

This made me realize how harsh the rear shock was.

I have a high speed road with square edged expansion joints about every 100' It is a real spine breaker.
I had originally installed the Honda spring on the BMW shock, but it was too stiff and overwhelmed the damping.
Back to the stock BMW spring and spending some time making adjustments
has me in the ballpark.
Preload 3 rounds in from full out. High speed compression 3. Low speed compression 6-7. Damping 6-7.

BTW: I'm close to 230lbs and my girlfriend near 180. Adding 2 clicks of compression is all that's needed when she gets on.

Yes, the bike uses a lot of travel when 2 up. But if your not using it all occasionally, your too stiff.
Thanks for posting the above. I pretty much have what you have for springs up front and the BMW shock out back. And including the shitty roads that I ride on. With gear on, I guess my weight is around 215 pounds.

I have struggled to find the correct compression and rebound settings front and back. I also have the front preload all the way off. I will give your settings a try, and hope for the best.
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Old 09-04-2018, 07:13 AM   #255
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my .02 Cents

Give it a try, Most shocks have too much compression damping.
Since the BMW shock has both high and low speed settings, it's easiest
to back off the high speed and use the low speed to firm up the shock to your weight.

Let me know how it works out.

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Old 09-04-2018, 07:16 AM   #256
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BTW: The low speed compression adjuster is the screw slot in the
middle of the 17mm high speed adjuster at the top of the shock.


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Old 09-16-2018, 12:38 PM   #257
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Give it a try, Most shocks have too much compression damping.
Since the BMW shock has both high and low speed settings, it's easiest
to back off the high speed and use the low speed to firm up the shock to your weight.

Let me know how it works out.

Mike
Finally got to go riding with the new settings. Rode 285 miles in around 5.5 hours. Went to the closest twisties for me, that are in western Wisconsin. Discounting the 100 miles of highway travel to go there and back, I'm going to say the other 185 miles told the story on the new settings. Much better. If anything, I may screw the front rebound screw in a couple of more clicks, but I'll keep the settings where they're at for now. Thanks again for the advice on the settings.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:03 PM   #258
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Glad you got out to try the settings and got what sounds like a great ride
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I always keep a screwdriver handy to make adjustments as needed.
You may like it with more rebound damping.

Heading out to the SW corner of Colorado in the morning. Trailering out since
we're carrying bicycles also. Plan is to do some riding in SE Utah and SW CO.

Some really cool roads in Utah as well as the scenic ride on the million dollar highway!

Mike

PS: Been working on the suspension on my brother's SV1000 for 3 years!
Finally went down to a 400lb/inch spring on his Penske shock.
Looks promising.
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