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Old 08-09-2019, 08:32 AM   #41
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The mark has moved over time in terms of compression ratio. Optimization of combustion chamber etc.

87 with 5-10% ethanol (in all octane levels round here) for the last couple decades hasn't grenaded my vehicles or peace of mind.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:28 PM   #42
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If you ride enough to keep fresh fuel running through the system, there's no gain in spending more than that what 87 E10 costs. Zero.
Well for one, better fuel economy. Ethanol mixed fuels don't go as far. I'm just gonna call it quits on this thread. Everyone has their own beliefs and what I've found is for the majority, people only want what they believe as true to well, be true. I have my own real world experiences with many different types of fuels in many different types of engines.

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Old 08-09-2019, 01:15 PM   #43
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If you don’t, the gains are huge, IMO. Ethanol sucks. Corn is for eating.
I may be the lone Gen I owner with OEM carbs that haven't been attacked by corn. Nor my weed-eaters, blowers, 12 year old Honda push mower, 32 year old JD rider, or well never mind. No sense looking in the mouth of the gift horse. Lucky is good.

Seriously, I don't have any ethanol related issues. As long as we're not talking bourbon anyway.

I have been running pre-mixed fuel in all the new Stihl equipment though. Simply for the pure convenience of not having to mix it up myself, plus it requires high octane which my other gas powered stuff doesn't. That would be even more inconvenient keeping various fuel grades around.

I'll also keep running 87 E10 in the FZ since the horsepower is there, and the cost per mile is lower than other fuels. Over 200 miles per tank is excellent.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:45 PM   #44
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I may be the lone Gen I owner with OEM carbs that haven't been attacked by corn. Nor my weed-eaters, blowers, 12 year old Honda push mower, 32 year old JD rider, or well never mind. No sense looking in the mouth of the gift horse. Lucky is good.

Seriously, I don't have any ethanol related issues. As long as we're not talking bourbon anyway.

I have been running pre-mixed fuel in all the new Stihl equipment though. Simply for the pure convenience of not having to mix it up myself, plus it requires high octane which my other gas powered stuff doesn't. That would be even more inconvenient keeping various fuel grades around.

I'll also keep running 87 E10 in the FZ since the horsepower is there, and the cost per mile is lower than other fuels. Over 200 miles per tank is excellent.
I stand corrected. Corn is also for drinking.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:08 PM   #45
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I may be the lone Gen I owner with OEM carbs that haven't been attacked by corn. Nor my weed-eaters, blowers, 12 year old Honda push mower, 32 year old JD rider, or well never mind. No sense looking in the mouth of the gift horse. Lucky is good.

Seriously, I don't have any ethanol related issues. As long as we're not talking bourbon anyway.

I have been running pre-mixed fuel in all the new Stihl equipment though. Simply for the pure convenience of not having to mix it up myself, plus it requires high octane which my other gas powered stuff doesn't. That would be even more inconvenient keeping various fuel grades around.

I'll also keep running 87 E10 in the FZ since the horsepower is there, and the cost per mile is lower than other fuels. Over 200 miles per tank is excellent.
You are not the only one that has no E10 issues. I store over 100 gallons of fuel with no additional stabilizer in seasonal power equipment, boats, snowmobiles, cars, bikes, etc and have not had any fuel related issues. Park them with whatever is in the tank and start them up the next season. E10 has been a fact for 25 years in MN and the fuel related issues that people seem to have is related to buying gas with water/crap in it already - not some magical issue that the alcohol causes.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:27 PM   #46
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Yep, I really appreciate not having to buy a pint of ethanol to add to the gas in winter, when I go north. Of course, now that I've outlived all my northern friends, that's no longer a problem :-)
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:41 PM   #47
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Well for one, better fuel economy. Ethanol mixed fuels don't go as far.
Well that’s partially true, but lower octane fuels are more efficient. Ideally, you would run the lowest grade fuel possible, while still avoiding detonation.

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I can get behind that
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I don’t thing mr fozzy boys mind is going to be changed. Time to drop the topic.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:50 AM   #49
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I don’t thing mr fozzy boys mind is going to be changed. Time to drop the topic.
I figured out long ago you can't change someone's mind, only promote thought and desire to know more so they figure it out for themselves. When I read incorrect information that may lead others astray, especially if it is bullshit that is held as true only because it is popular but still incorrect, I tend to post in hopes of actually helping someone.

Still, I am wrong on occasion. Sue me.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:17 AM   #50
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..you can't change someone's mind, only promote thought and desire to know more so they figure it out for themselves. When I read incorrect information that may lead others astray, especially if it is bullshit that is held as true only because it is popular but still incorrect, I tend to post in hopes of actually helping someone..
Right on point! When the bullshit is on an octane(or exup) thread, it doesn't matter much. But when someone is in real trouble - with their tit in a wringer and without the knowledge to separate bullshit from fact, that's when the bullshit needs to be called out directly for what it is. Nothing worse than being fed up & frustrated with a broken machine or a pile of parts in front of you, then getting bad advice that makes it 10X worse than where you started, because you followed it. I think we've all been there.

Still, I am wrong on occasion. Sue me.

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Old 08-10-2019, 12:24 PM   #51
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Pot meet kettle. Everybody loves the smell of their own brand of bullshit.
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I'll defer to your expertise on that. At least my "bullshit" has hard data to back it up.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:09 PM   #53
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Oh settle down, y’all acting like children!
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