Ninja 1000 - Page 2

Gorilla · 08-12-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rdcusmc

I have test ridden and wanted to love the bike but engine buzz killed it for me. It's there and would be hard to dial out.

Best,
Ron

Thanks Ron, appreciate your feedback here. I guess I'm just tripping out, that it's almost 2020, I'm riding an almost 15 year old carbureted bike, and having a hard time finding something that really beats it.

Gorilla · 08-12-2019, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by killer5280

Suzuki GSX-S. No cruise control, though.

Triumph Speed Triple?

LOVE the speed triple. But honestly it's quite one dimensional (to me). No wind protection would rule that bike out for me. Really dig it though!

Torchsport · 08-12-2019, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by organ donor

... like I said a sport touring bike without cc is no Bueno for me...

Same goes for the Kawasaki Concours 14. I like that bike but lack of cc turns me off.

rdcusmc · 08-13-2019, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla

Thanks Ron, appreciate your feedback here. I guess I'm just tripping out, that it's almost 2020, I'm riding an almost 15 year old carbureted bike, and having a hard time finding something that really beats it.

I am in exactly the same boat but I am not fighting it. My FZ as you probably know is extensively modded with the 07 R1 forks, 140 rwhp, Penske, GOEC, large fuel tank, Givi luggage, etc... I think the bike is brilliant. The carbs don't bother me because they work so well. I'd love FI for the no worries start, etc... but my carbs are smooth as silk and return excellent fuel mileage. I can't find anything else that combines the power, economy, range, comfort or versatility of this bike. And the price can't be beat.

Best,
Ron

bmidd · 08-13-2019, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdcusmc

I am in exactly the same boat but I am not fighting it. My FZ as you probably know is extensively modded with the 07 R1 forks, 140 rwhp, Penske, GOEC, large fuel tank, Givi luggage, etc... I think the bike is brilliant. The carbs don't bother me because they work so well. I'd love FI for the no worries start, etc... but my carbs are smooth as silk and return excellent fuel mileage. I can't find anything else that combines the power, economy, range, comfort or versatility of this bike. And the price can't be beat.

Best,
Ron

Same boat here. I'm currently trying to find a Concours 14 to ride. I've had the Concours itch for a couple of years now. I found one locally to try out at a dealer, but it has a horrible seat on it and I didn't want the seat to spoil the ride. The search will continue.

FUP · 08-13-2019, 07:08 AM

I installed electronic cruise to my 2006 FJR and it was no big deal.
It makes it easier if the bike has ABS (to read speed) but that can be worked around also.
The cost was less than $150.00. It truly does spoil you ---

RIDER1 · 08-13-2019, 12:44 PM

Ninja 1000 is 518 Lbs wet, heavier than a Gen I FZ1. 2nd gen FZ1 is 485 Lbs, something to consider anyways

bmidd · 08-13-2019, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RIDER1

Ninja 1000 is 518 Lbs wet, heavier than a Gen I FZ1. 2nd gen FZ1 is 485 Lbs, something to consider anyways

But it feels 30# lighter than a Gen1 when riding it.

KBay84 · 08-13-2019, 05:44 PM

When my 2010 FZ1 got stolen out of my garage in a break in, I went looking for a replacement. Was not happy at all with the FZ-10, and after some research, went with a brand new in crate 2017 Ninja 1000 ABS. Outside of the fact that I had to get a custom seat so I could get my feet down, I love it. All the electric gizmos and bottom/mid umph that the FZ-1 never had, and in a useable range. I got the factory hard bags added on last year and did a nice ride from Yuma, Az up to Billings, Mt and my buddy who lives up there took me to Beartooth, Chief Joseph, and then out west to the Missoula area. I see that some folks say there's engine buzz, but I have not had that experience. Having the three power settings is very nice 3 for wet conditions, 2 which I use for around town and slab, and 1 for some peel your eyelids back solid acceleration. Traction control, wheelie control...and a 5 gallon gas tank. On the way home from that trip, the last leg I did just moderately over the speed limit, and got home with 186.4 miles on the tank, and 22 indicated miles left.Hands and feet never went numb from vibrations like would happen with the FZ from time to time. It actually has a hole plumbed in the fairing in the cockpit and wiring already in place so you can install a USB port, I bought a RAM cell phone holder, so no extra GPS needed.

So....my dos centavos.

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Torchsport · 08-13-2019, 06:25 PM

Good to read a positive review.
That exhaust tho...

KBay84 · 08-13-2019, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Torchsport

Good to read a positive review.
That exhaust tho...

I know, it sounds shweet, but it's the next mod, it's gotta go. One can on the right side. Yosh has a nice full system, and from what I read I won't even need a reflash to swap it out.

KBay84 · 08-13-2019, 08:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMttiNVMbho&t=243s

killer5280 · 08-13-2019, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bmidd

But it feels 30# lighter than a Gen1 when riding it.

Yes, but it's not.
My Gen 1 feels super light and responsive, although I know what it weighs.

Wonger · 08-14-2019, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by killer5280

Yes, but it's not.
My Gen 1 feels super light and responsive, although I know what it weighs.

You'll lose 14 of those pounds with the aforementioned Yosh single-sided exhaust. ABS, Traction control and mounting points and support for luggage are worth the additional 15 or so pounds to me.
The Ninja was definitely on my short list when getting rid of the FZ10.

iluvmyfz1 · 08-14-2019, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by killer5280

Yes, but it's not.
My Gen 1 feels super light and responsive, although I know what it weighs.

Mine doesn't feel heavy, and I've ridden lighter bikes that felt heavier. Wolfpen gap is still fun on this bike, although a sumo really rips in tight stuff.

bmidd · 08-14-2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by killer5280

Yes, but it's not.
My Gen 1 feels super light and responsive, although I know what it weighs.

2011 Ninja weighs 503# wet, which is less than a Gen1. My neighbor and riding partner has 2 CF cans that weigh 2# each on his, so drop another 12# off the the 503#.
Feeling is subjective, the way it rides is not. My Gen1 is properly set up and well suspended and his N1K makes a Gen1 feel like a slow steering fuel tanker, and that is with stock suspension dialed in for his weight.

The vibes is a deal killer for me, maybe I'm more sensitive about it than most, but it is pretty bad on his bike. When the 2015 Versys 1000 came out(same engine), the vibes from the engine kept me from buying that bike and pushed me to the FJ-09.

To update more on the vibes, I have another friend that works at a dealership that just purchased a 2018 N1K, he says the vibes aren't bad at all on his bike. Maybe I'll get with the neighbor and see what we can do about his particular issue.

organ donor · 08-14-2019, 02:36 PM

When ever someone starts splitting hairs over the weight of bikes I always wonder how much the rider in question weighs.

bmidd · 08-14-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by organ donor

When ever someone starts splitting hairs over the weight of bikes I always wonder how much the rider in question weighs.

I know right! I was pointing out how it feels and could really not give two shits how much it actually weighs.

Back to vibes....it appears that Kawi added a secondary balancer to the crankshaft in 2017 to quell engine vibes. Appears to have worked according to what I have read.

KBay84 · 08-14-2019, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bmidd

I know right! I was pointing out how it feels and could really not give two shits how much it actually weighs.

Back to vibes....it appears that Kawi added a secondary balancer to the crankshaft in 2017 to quell engine vibes. Appears to have worked according to what I have read.

Guess I got lucky with the 2017, then. Good thing my FZ-1 didn't get stolen in 2016!

Even with the hard bags packed for a 9 day trip, it didn't feel like it was a hog wallowing in the mud, and I'm not a tall guy by any stretch of the imagination.

Gorilla · 08-17-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by organ donor

Buzzy at 5k-6k rpm and no cruise control caused me to walk away which is a shame since that engine is a gem.

Also, what year did you ride? I've heard that the latest version (2017 and later) had some improvements...

08-13-2019, 07:08 AM	#26
FUP I crashed the swing too Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The land of the wind chill factor Posts: 4,532	I installed electronic cruise to my 2006 FJR and it was no big deal. It makes it easier if the bike has ABS (to read speed) but that can be worked around also. The cost was less than $150.00. It truly does spoil you --- __________________ BMW S1000XR Norton Commando "S" Suzuki 250SM ATK 605SM WR450

08-13-2019, 05:44 PM	#29
KBay84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Yuma, Az Posts: 2,128	When my 2010 FZ1 got stolen out of my garage in a break in, I went looking for a replacement. Was not happy at all with the FZ-10, and after some research, went with a brand new in crate 2017 Ninja 1000 ABS. Outside of the fact that I had to get a custom seat so I could get my feet down, I love it. All the electric gizmos and bottom/mid umph that the FZ-1 never had, and in a useable range. I got the factory hard bags added on last year and did a nice ride from Yuma, Az up to Billings, Mt and my buddy who lives up there took me to Beartooth, Chief Joseph, and then out west to the Missoula area. I see that some folks say there's engine buzz, but I have not had that experience. Having the three power settings is very nice 3 for wet conditions, 2 which I use for around town and slab, and 1 for some peel your eyelids back solid acceleration. Traction control, wheelie control...and a 5 gallon gas tank. On the way home from that trip, the last leg I did just moderately over the speed limit, and got home with 186.4 miles on the tank, and 22 indicated miles left.Hands and feet never went numb from vibrations like would happen with the FZ from time to time. It actually has a hole plumbed in the fairing in the cockpit and wiring already in place so you can install a USB port, I bought a RAM cell phone holder, so no extra GPS needed. So....my dos centavos. [IMG]098 by Paul Steinhoff, on Flickr[/IMG] [IMG]100 by Paul Steinhoff, on Flickr[/IMG] __________________ Semper Fidelis “Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not prove they are a citizen.” Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum

08-13-2019, 06:25 PM	#30
Torchsport Deer Whisperer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northwoods of Minnesota Posts: 8,335	Good to read a positive review. That exhaust tho... __________________ 2018 Yamaha YZ250FX (Fuel injected, e-start=dirty fun) 2016 BMW S1000RR Premium (Oh-my-GAWD!) 2015 MV Agusta Brutale 1090RR CORSA (Sex machine) 2014 Yamaha Zuma 125 ("track" bike )

08-13-2019, 08:48 PM	#32
KBay84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Yuma, Az Posts: 2,128	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMttiNVMbho&t=243s __________________ Semper Fidelis “Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not prove they are a citizen.” Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum

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08-13-2019, 12:44 PM	#27
RIDER1 Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hudson, OH Posts: 328	Ninja 1000 is 518 Lbs wet, heavier than a Gen I FZ1. 2nd gen FZ1 is 485 Lbs, something to consider anyways

08-14-2019, 02:36 PM	#37
organ donor Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,445	When ever someone starts splitting hairs over the weight of bikes I always wonder how much the rider in question weighs.