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Old 12-20-2019, 08:41 AM   #1
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Aftermarket Gauge Cluster Help

I am trying to install an Ace Speedo and I cant seem to be able to get the fuel, speedometer, tachometer or neutral light working. I have tried many different wire combinations with no luck. Does anyone have experience with this. I would even be willing to pay someone to walk me through it?
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Old 12-20-2019, 10:22 AM   #2
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What exact type/version is it?

First study the correct pinning diagram for the original cluster.
http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=128264

Locate ground and connect it to the ace. Same for the two 12V lines (battery/permanent and switched).
Connect neutral and power up to check.
If this basic installations makes any problem you might have already fried your neutral switch?..

Disconnect neutral wire from loom and tie it directly to 12V. On the ace-side only! Never connect the neutral switch directly to 12V.

Do you have any voltage/multimeter at hand?

Apart from the trouble to get it started you should be aware to solve the cooling fan problem at the end. The fan is controlled by the original cluster. None of the aftermarket dashs is able to provide this function. Check the forum search for "koso" or "gauge+swap" to find more hints.
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Old 12-23-2019, 01:17 PM   #3
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What exact type/version is it?

First study the correct pinning diagram for the original cluster.
http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=128264

Locate ground and connect it to the ace. Same for the two 12V lines (battery/permanent and switched).
Connect neutral and power up to check.
If this basic installations makes any problem you might have already fried your neutral switch?..
I just tried this. Since the connector from the fz1 loom did not match the Ace, I cut both connectors and installed butt connectors on both looms. Then I connected the fz1 ground to the ground on the Ace speedo, I connected the red green wire from the fz1 to the 'clock power' and the brown wire from the fz1 to the 'key switch'. Nothing happened the screen on the Ace didn't even turn on.

Here is the wiring diagram for the Ace


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Disconnect neutral wire from loom and tie it directly to 12V. On the ace-side only! Never connect the neutral switch directly to 12V.
I dont follow what you are saying here.

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Do you have any voltage/multimeter at
Yes
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:22 AM   #4
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I've wired this exact model to a friend's gen1 (about 12 years ago.. ). It's not plug-n-play..

Your power cabling looks right, check the fuses to be sure. Solve the power-up issue first before proceeding.

Please have a look to the appended picture for reference.

For RPM you have 3 choices:
- use the Y/B cable from the original dash connector
- connect Ace/Yellow directly to one of the coil's primary, either orange or gray
(For info, the FZ1's CDI switches the ground line. The Ace diagram is a bit misleading)
- apply the 3-5 turns on the high voltage side.

The original FZ1's speedo sensor provides a far too high signal rate. The Ace is not capable to decode it. Use the extra sensor that is delivered instead (guess it works with a magnet at the disk).

Neutral should work directly.
My statement from before's thread was only a warning. The neutral switch will get damaged if tied directly to 12V. Be careful.
But it's save if you put the Ace/purple solely to 12V or ground for testing.

For oil I'm not completly sure (I don't remember every detail). Guess the signal is inverted as the FZ1 has a oil-level sensor. The Ace expects an oil-pressure sensor.

Fuel level should work directly.

Just my personal opinion: This Ace is not the best choice for the FZ1 as there are too many modifications required. And remember, the fan is still out of function.
The best match for replacement is the R1 RN04 dash.
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Old 12-24-2019, 09:13 AM   #5
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Christian,
Which year model is the RN04 from?

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Should be 2000 - 2001.
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