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Old 05-14-2019, 02:09 PM   #21
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I have a large garage specifically to move most of my maintenance to winter months
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:17 PM   #22
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The post by arkie6 reminded me of a system I was looking into about thirty years ago. It consisted of open steel trusses, with angle welded to both sides of the bottom edge. The trusses were 8 inches high and were placed 16 inches apart. Ordinary concrete two hole building blocks were placed on the angles between the trusses, then redimix was used to fill in between the blocks as grout, encapsulating the trusses.

The sample I saw was four blocks wide (5 trusses) and 15 feet long, carrying a load of 20,000 pounds and fire rated. I don't recall what it was called or what the fire specs were. What attracted me to it was how easy it was for one man working alone to build a suspended concrete floor.
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:43 PM   #23
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Thoughts from someone with a similar long-term plan:

- pit has limited functionality (and in your case, not practical if you plan on a lower level with normal height ceiling)
- splitting a workspace mean you'll be constantly moving between them looking for the tool you left in the other place

In your situation, I would be thinking about a deep, wide garage with a single double-width door, facing the driveway. Obviously remove the existing exterior wall but you could leave a post in the center. I'd put a lift where your current right-side garage spot is. I'd extend the new structure forward (level with the railing on your porch) and perhaps back a little over the slope making it deep enough to park bikes "in front" of vehicles that pull in from the front. If you make the new section 3' wider, you can put a staircase along the right side and use the entire space for storage - although I would advise against it. Use additional width and depth for shelving and forget another level and stairs. That's worse than moving from one space to another..
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:06 PM   #24
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Thoughts from someone with a similar long-term plan:

- pit has limited functionality (and in your case, not practical if you plan on a lower level with normal height ceiling)
- splitting a workspace mean you'll be constantly moving between them looking for the tool you left in the other place

In your situation, I would be thinking about a deep, wide garage with a single double-width door, facing the driveway. Obviously remove the existing exterior wall but you could leave a post in the center. I'd put a lift where your current right-side garage spot is. I'd extend the new structure forward (level with the railing on your porch) and perhaps back a little over the slope making it deep enough to park bikes "in front" of vehicles that pull in from the front. If you make the new section 3' wider, you can put a staircase along the right side and use the entire space for storage - although I would advise against it. Use additional width and depth for shelving and forget another level and stairs. That's worse than moving from one space to another..
Many years ago I framed houses for a couple of years and I just hated posts in garages. If it was me I'd pay to have a longer header put in to make it an 18' door. Also, since I made the new section 30 feet wide (9 feet wider than the old garage) I could park the bikes parallel to the 9' wall and store 6 bikes and still have room for a refrigerator and freezer.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:29 PM   #25
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Many years ago I framed houses for a couple of years and I just hated posts in garages.
I do too, but if the lift is in that far corner, it wouldn't be getting in the way of anything, and it would greatly simplify support of the roof (and possible attic storage space) for the new, larger addition.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:43 PM   #26
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This solves the lift problem, maximizes floor space and utility. When you don’t need this 2 post lift, unbolt it and move it to the side.

https://www.maxjaxusa.com/dannmar-ma...d-package.html

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:16 PM   #27
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Ron since ceiling height would not be an issue for me (can build 12 to 14 foot ceiling) I would go for a higher two post lift that is permanently installed. You can then park a car under another one for extra storage.

Thanks to all for some great ideas. After considering all of the well thought out posts, I have ditched the "pit" idea. I agree what adding another two car garage to the existing structure (a little bigger, and facing up the driveway, 90 degrees from existing garage doors) makes the most sense. I will use the existing garage for climate controlled workshop/motorcycle storage.

Now I just need to grow enough weed to fund this. (Medical only, of course!)
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Ron since ceiling height would not be an issue for me (can build 12 to 14 foot ceiling) I would go for a higher two post lift that is permanently installed. You can then park a car under another one for extra storage.

Thanks to all for some great ideas. After considering all of the well thought out posts, I have ditched the "pit" idea. I agree what adding another two car garage to the existing structure (a little bigger, and facing up the driveway, 90 degrees from existing garage doors) makes the most sense. I will use the existing garage for climate controlled workshop/motorcycle storage.

Now I just need to grow enough weed to fund this. (Medical only, of course!)
Sounds like a winner. Way cheaper to climate control one building!!
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