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Old 12-31-2018, 05:20 AM   #10021
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Was 45 and dry in pa yesterday, so went for a rip.

Still have the itch to do the n conversion. And a pretty new chain from Pj
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:32 PM   #10022
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I was hoping for a ride and an oil change. Unfortunately I had to settle for just the oil change. I sure can’t catch a break with this weather.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:44 AM   #10023
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Ok I've finally figured out how the fork cap installation works. I think. Replaced my fork caps with a used set off ebay this weekend (R1 forks). I was wondering how I make sure I have enough clicks in the rebound adjuster and where the nut should be. Turns out, if I put the rebound adjuster at 26 clicks in (which is how many clicks I'm supposed to have) and then thread the cap on until it stops, then turn the nut to meet the cap, I end up with 26 clicks in the rebound adjuster.

I've done this maybe 5 times til now and had always wondered where that nut should be but had no idea til yesterday.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:11 PM   #10024
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Valve clearance check underway. Only 18K miles overdue.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:16 PM   #10025
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Valve clearance check underway. Only 18K miles overdue.



This one I won’t do....too skeeerd.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:53 PM   #10026
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Valve clearance check underway. Only 18K miles overdue.
Please make sure you take more pictures & give us some details, my bike is overdue for valve adjustment & I hope I don't get overwhelmed trying to do it.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:57 PM   #10027
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:08 AM   #10028
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Dropped mine off at the local dealer for it's 1st valve check as well. I do almost all maintenance on our bikes, but just not comfortable with this part. I look at it as a once-in-a-while opportunity for a trained technician to give the bike a look-over. It's also an opportunity to try to build a decent relationship with the dealership's service dept in case I need them.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:29 AM   #10029
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Dropped mine off at the local dealer for it's 1st valve check as well. I do almost all maintenance on our bikes, but just not comfortable with this part. I look at it as a once-in-a-while opportunity for a trained technician to give the bike a look-over. It's also an opportunity to try to build a decent relationship with the dealership's service dept in case I need them.
I always ask them to write down the clearances. I’m paranoid that they won’t actually be thorough etc etc.

My personal mechanic also recommends using like white marker or tape deep on a part that they would have to move or do as part of the service to insure the stealership does as they say.

I just know turnover time is rushed and corners can be cut
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:34 PM   #10030
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Patrice did a write up when she did her valves, http://thewolftamer71.blogspot.com/2...lve-check.html
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:03 PM   #10031
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:22 PM   #10032
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Anxious to see what your clearances are.

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Old 01-14-2019, 11:49 AM   #10033
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One thing to note is the valve clearance will normally get smaller as the valve face wears into the valve seat which is normal. The exhaust valves tend to wear more than the intake. If you look at the measurements that Patrice took you will notice that a few of the exhaust valves are out of spec on the tight side, not by much but still out of spec. Personally I would have put them back into the middle of the spec since I had the engine that far apart. The valves will only get tighter as time goes on. If you have valves that are out of spec on the loose side there is normally something else wrong, valve stems mushrooming ect.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:53 AM   #10034
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:26 PM   #10035
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Anxious to see what your clearances are.

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Initial Check is done. Looks like a couple intake valves are out of spec. Infact the whole intake is pretty tight with the exception of cylinder #4. Exhaust all look good. But, since I'm going to have to pull the cams, I am going to adjust all to the middle of spec. I'd like to see .16 on the intakes and .23 on the exhausts. So the next step is to pull cams and measure the shims and then order shims.


Intake spec is .11 - .20 mm. Exhaust spec is .21 - .25 mm. The following measurements are from left side of engine to right as if seated on bike.


Cylinder #1: Intake: .11, .11, .10 ; Exhaust: .22, .23


Cylinder #2: Intake: .11, .10, .11 ; Exhaust: .23, .22


Cylinder #3: Intake: .11, .11, .11 ; Exhaust: .22, .21


Cylinder #4: Intake: .13, .12, .12 ; Exhaust: .23, .22


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Old 01-14-2019, 10:23 PM   #10036
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Patrice did a write up when she did her valves, http://thewolftamer71.blogspot.com/2...lve-check.html
A most admirable job she did, both on job and the writeup. That girl got it goin on.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:07 PM   #10037
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Well, I MUST be slippin'. Checked my EXUP last week and it was stiff and in need of maintenance. Got that done. Thought about replacing my clutch cable but inspected it and it looks good. So I give a great lube and it feels like new. Now I know I lubed that stupid cable twice last year but I MUST of f'd it up because this thing feel like new now. Better a smooth cable than a sore left hand I say...

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Old 01-25-2019, 09:10 AM   #10038
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Here is what I came up with. It puts all the valves away from the tight end of the specs. Feel free to double check my maths and give me feedback, but I think I have this. I will basically have to order two packs of 1.95 shims for a grand total of about $20.

The exhaust valves were all in spec, but to get 3-2 off the tight end, I will swap it with 2-1 to bring them both to .22 mm.

edit: Just caught the mistake at the Calculated New Clearance for Intake Valve 1-3. It should read 0.15.
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:45 AM   #10039
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Keep the photos coming & don't forget to lube the cams & shims with cam lube before you put everything back.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:06 AM   #10040
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Keep the photos coming & don't forget to lube the cams & shims with cam lube before you put everything back.
I'm sorry I didn't really take any photos during disassembly. I get to working on the bike and I get tunnel vision. I get so focused and engrossed in what I'm doing that I forget to stop and take pics.

everyone who wanted pics -> <- me

I'll try to get some pics during shim change out and reassembly. But really this whole evolution is really nothing more complicated than removing bolts and some simple maths. Reinstallation of cams and setting timing can be the most difficult part, so I will most definitely document my progress here.
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