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Old 09-19-2017, 07:08 PM   #21
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Look at an old helmet...everything inside has shrunk from exposure to oxygen. Add heat, sweat and humidity with mine and 5 years is a good service life. Price does not matter although the cheap ones disentegrate very fast.
I guess you could fit new padding and fabric to compensate for time, good luck finding fresh internals from any manufacturer after 4-5 years.
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:25 AM   #22
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The reason for the question is if it was worth buying one on closure price. Or buy a fresh one off the current line instead of last years model. Thanks for everyone's input!
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Old 09-20-2017, 04:48 AM   #23
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They also recommend replacing your helmet every 5 years because of the various advances in helmet tech that take place almost every year.
Helmets consist of an outer shell, inner Styrofoam which is the actual protection layer, liners which simply provide comfort for the rider and a strap latching mechanism.
What substantial advances have taken place over the years?
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:46 AM   #24
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...What substantial advances have taken place over the years?
http://www.sportrider.com/revolution...helmets#page-6
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:10 PM   #25
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The reason for the question is if it was worth buying one on closure price. Or buy a fresh one off the current line instead of last years model. Thanks for everyone's input!
I have a helmet fetish (not in that way you kinky bastards). So, I have no problem buying a clearance helmet for half the price, wear it for a couple of years and get another one.

I usually donate my old ones to the local fire dept, so they can use them as training tools.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:37 AM   #26
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When it gets loose and moves around too much or after a major prang, never bothered with minor drops like off your mirror or seat or time frames
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:46 AM   #27
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I guess you could fit new padding and fabric to compensate for time, good luck finding fresh internals from any manufacturer after 4-5 years.
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Oh and FWIW Shuberth helmets have a 5 year warranty so unless they make their helmets out of totally different materials, the 5 year replacement thing is probably overkill.

Hasn't stopped me from replacing my lid every 5 years though. Love getting a new helmet!!LOL
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:02 AM   #28
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I actually agree with the Snell Foundation. Their website lists this as an answer to why every 5 years.

Why should you replace your helmet every five years?

The five-year replacement recommendation is based on a consensus by both helmet manufacturers and the Snell Foundation. Glues, resins and other materials used in helmet production can affect liner materials. Hair oils, body fluids and cosmetics, as well as normal "wear and tear" all contribute to helmet degradation. Petroleum based products present in cleaners, paints, fuels and other commonly encountered materials may also degrade materials used in many helmets possibly degrading performance. Additionally, experience indicates there will be a noticeable improvement in the protective characteristic of helmets over a five-year period due to advances in materials, designs, production methods and the standards. Thus, the recommendation for five-year helmet replacement is a judgment call stemming from a prudent safety philosophy.

From personal experience, when I have upgraded my helmets to a newer model .... Shoei fits my melon :-) The performance of the helmet has increased dramatically. I also support the new helmet purchasing program :-) My head is worth it. Fortunately for my, my wife also rides and supports the purchases.
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Old 09-21-2017, 01:44 PM   #29
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I was a chemist many years ago and worked with plastics, resins and coatings. We tested plasticizers that keep plastic, vinyl and styrofoam pliable. In all cases I worked on the plasticizer would leach out rendering the resin, foam or coatings brittle. It worked out to be about 5 to 10 years depending on material.
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Old 09-30-2017, 10:54 PM   #30
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liability. use common sense, and inspect your lid
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:32 AM   #31
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I have five Shoei, full face helmets. A Qwest, RF1100, RF1000, and two TZ-R's. Both of the TZ-R's, have been painted by me, to match the "Shunk" livery, on my 2002 FZ1.

I think i will go for a ride today, and wear my three year old, RF1100 to compare, to the others.
Newer tech, better venting, and more chin space. lol!

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P.S. Back from the ride, and the RF1100 does indeed, vent better. I think i will sell the RF1000, here in the classifieds. Great helmet, but the 1100 is a bit better for me.

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Old 10-01-2017, 02:46 PM   #32
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I read on the Shoei website that it is only 5 yrs and recommended to get another one. On Arai's site, 7yrs from date of manufacture. Kind of hard to believe that a $500-$1000 helmet is only good for time stated above. I keep all my gear in my office closet that is climate controlled . I don't let shit bake in the sun day in and day out. Clean helmet w/ mild soap n water.
Does anyone have any knowledge that they are good for longer than stated? Hit me with your wisdom peeps.


I think 5 years is probably a good timetable due to the type of material inside the helmet. It is just not able to absorb sweat, oil from our hair, etc. I do not know of anything that could increase the lifespan of a helmet. I do agree with you that something priced that high should last longer but the bottom line is just too risky to push the limits on something like that.

On the bright side, football is under INCREDIBLE pressure to develop new helmet technology and we will probably benefit from those advances. I am hoping that will transition over to the world of motorcycle helmets.

I just saw this new type of design and I have to say I love it. IDK - it looks like it's been around for a while and I just missed it??? Seems like a good idea if it provides similar protection.




https://tech.co/motorcycle-vozz-helmets-2015-12








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Old 10-01-2017, 05:18 PM   #33
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^ Remember rear entry ski boots? Gone for twenty years now.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:04 PM   #34
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^ Remember rear entry ski boots? Gone for twenty years now.


I remember...... LOL..... I thought that was a great idea also......




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Old 10-06-2017, 07:17 AM   #35
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Re: Helmet replacement...

I think it's a combination of three factors.

1. Usable life of the liner.

2. Liability mitigation.

and... 3. Profit.
If a helmet lasted forever or if you could buy a replacement liner... you sure as heck wouldn't be buying a new one. Pretty much the same reason why most cell phones do not have replaceable batteries.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:36 PM   #36
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My Bike insurance covers a clause for my bike gear up to $2000. I have never tested to see if my helmet was dropped or accidentally run over weather they would cover a replacement. Has anyone else had the misfortune to have to try this?
i did this in england..got a measly few pounds considering the cost of the helmet...the insurance looks and sounds good but n practice not lot of use.But knock yourself out an try claiming for it and see how much you get back.

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Old 06-27-2018, 08:35 AM   #37
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It is just because of some people are Layering up at ANY thing they can and the company's that make helmets said screw that we will show them now there is a shelf life on helmets 5 or so years and then we get more money! Sell them another! Think about Football helmets they do not buy new ones every game but they do get the hell beat out of them!
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:02 AM   #38
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Er, football players might not be the example you are looking for (in many ways) considering what we've learned about CTE. Rather not go out like Junior Seau thanks.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:31 AM   #39
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And football helmets aren’t constructed anything like a motorcycle helmet.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:42 AM   #40
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oops just my crazy 2 cents
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