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View Poll Results: Daily riders only , ATGATT
All the gear all the time 33 82.50%
I live for T-shirt weather 7 17.50%
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:11 PM   #1
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Poll only for daily riders , ATGATT ?

This poll is only for daily riders , those of us who do not own cars or drive very infrequently.

All the gear all the time ?

I live for T-shirt weather ?
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:20 PM   #2
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I always wear a helmet. I dress heavily a great part of the year so I look forward to T-shirt weather. Does anyone put ALL the gear on to go to coffee or get a quart of milk? In August ? Every day?
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Old 08-23-2018, 01:59 AM   #3
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Old 08-23-2018, 03:10 AM   #4
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well im still taking care of road rash on my arm from laying a bike down at 30 mph in a tshirt about a month ago.

Just going around the block at my house.

I at least wear some sort of protection when just going for a quick rip.

So yeah ATGATT.
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:01 AM   #5
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I read somewhere that most accidents occur within a half mile from home, so I moved. Yeah, ATGATT.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:36 AM   #6
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I haven't been a daily rider for a few months, but I was for 3 years prior, and at other times before that.

I'm more like MGMTT. Most gear most of the time. On long rides and many trips it was all the gear. On my commute the norm was full face helmet, gloves, ankle covering boots, often a jacket, and most of the time just jeans on the legs. Sometimes I'd go without the jacket but would usually have a long sleeve shirt (basically no more protection than a tshirt), and some times but not often I'd wear over-pants.

On my longer rides in the summer I actually like wearing my mesh/ballistic jacket. It's light in color, keeps the sun off, and breathes. In real heat (high 90s/triple digits) if I am out for a long ride I also add a cooling vest under the mesh.

ATGATT would be ideal for the sake of protection. But, it's not always practicable.

Also, and this surely will sound silly to some, I feel more free just jumping on my bikes without pressuring myself to fully gear up. The wind feels nice. It's easier to just jump on and go, and to jump off when I'm done. Putting on overpante in particular I find to be an inconvenience and uncomfortable.

The things I virtually never ride without are the full face, gloves, and ankle covering boots. On short jaunts around the neighborhood or to run a short errand I stress less about the other stuff. I've even went in running shoes on very short rides around the block or whatever, but that's rare.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:56 AM   #7
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Does anyone put ALL the gear on to go to coffee or get a quart of milk? In August ? Every day?
No. Of course not. Anyone who says they do is full of it.

Personally, I draw the line at shorts, though.

NO riding in shorts. EVER!

(Except on Fathers Day.)

(And then only because I have a really nice pair of white/blue/maroon plaid Bermuda Shorts.)

(I like them so much I bought a white 1974 BMW R60-6 to match the shorts.)
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:28 AM   #8
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well im still taking care of road rash on my arm from laying a bike down at 30 mph in a tshirt about a month ago.
I have scars on the inside of both forearms from crashes over the years.

Some are from summer time motorcycle crashes.

Some are from bicycle racing crashes. (At 30 mph, lycra actually allows the road to come THROUGH the fabric and give you road rash without a tear in the fabric!)

War stories are way more credible when you have the physical evidence to back them up.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:02 AM   #9
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I have crashed a motorcycle several times. I have zero road rash.

While I won't say I've never done it (I did ride from the Super 8 to the Walmart in Harrison, AR, once, without all my gear on, and I've test-ridden a bike or two prior to purchase with only a helmet), I will say yes, I wear all of it all the time, regardless of conditions or distance.

Many bicycle crashes have taught me you can die or be seriously injured at 10mph. I like my body the way it is. Undamaged.


edit: I ride to work almost every day, every month of the year. Only time I won't ride is if there's a heavy rainstorm going on or ice/snow on the roads.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:36 AM   #10
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Not that it matters any, but I HAVE to wear gear all the time. Well, gear in the sense that it has to be long sleeve, pants, boots and gloves. I say have to because the military says so and if I get in a wreck without gear on, a line of duty determination comes into play and they decide if i should be medically covered or not. That includes life insurance if the worst happens.
BUT... i do wear gear all the time regardless if they had that rule or not. Even with gear on, I have road rash and scars... such is life.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:40 AM   #11
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While I try to be atgatt as possible, heat plays an important role in deciding what I buy and wear. I bought a "bad" helmet (Kabuto Kamui) for around town riding because it's so darn hot here in Atlanta. I also wear A* short gloves and summer jacket along with Levi's jeans when riding around town. Anything more than a couple blocks and I'll wear motorcycle shoes. Shoei helmet, touring jacket, pants and riding boots for touring.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:14 AM   #12
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Commuting off and on 40+ years in SoCal. Voted ATGATT but there are some rare times will admit to not having leg armor on. When I do so I accept the risk. No excuse.

Late 80s hit some anti-freeze that couldn't be seen at the time and bars went instant full lock and I was off at 60ish on a freeway off-ramp with a lot of time to think about whether someone was coming along behind me and oh the bike is going to be effed up when we both stop sliding

All that was left on the right leg was the pocket. Keys were poking through

The rim was bent just enough to cause a slow leak so pushed it to a gas station, pumped it up, and rode the last few miles home with my rashed thigh flapping in the breeze. Learned from friction burns that leather can survive a lot of abuse but if it can move in a slide you might not come out unscathed. Also learned 20 lbs of STEM college books in a backpack make a great spine protector

Some of my jobs required coat and tie, uniforms, special footwear etc. You can make it work if it's a priority.
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Commuting off and on 40+ years in SoCal. Voted ATGATT but there are some rare times will admit to not having leg armor on. When I do so I accept the risk. No excuse.

Late 80s hit some anti-freeze that couldn't be seen at the time and bars went instant full lock and I was off at 60ish on a freeway off-ramp with a lot of time to think about whether someone was coming along behind me and oh the bike is going to be effed up when we both stop sliding

All that was left on the right leg was the pocket. Keys were poking through

The rim was bent just enough to cause a slow leak so pushed it to a gas station, pumped it up, and rode the last few miles home with my rashed thigh flapping in the breeze. Learned from friction burns that leather can survive a lot of abuse but if it can move in a slide you might not come out unscathed. Also learned 20 lbs of STEM college books in a backpack make a great spine protector

Some of my jobs required coat and tie, uniforms, special footwear etc. You can make it work if it's a priority.
Right. I've ridden in suit pants, dress shirt, and tie, with the jacket and shoes in the luggage. Upon arrival, the riding suit and boots went in the luggage and I looked just as if I had suited up and driven my car.

I rode 60 miles this morning in jeans and my mesh, with all the other usual stuff. I need a new cool weather jacket, tho. This mesh will be virtually useless in a getoff.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:10 AM   #14
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Since I sold the FZ and have the Zuma I've totally be squiding out....shorts, t-shirt, flip flops, open face helmet with sunglasses. I rather enjoy it.

Is it smart? Well....no. I'm an adult though and can make those decisions.

Now if I commute to work on it, etc, then yes I'll gear up more.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:09 AM   #15
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ATGATT...99.9% of the time.
It is the 0.1% I worry bout.
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Went down three years ago after hitting a hawk. Wasn't my first crash, in fact it was probably the least amount of physical damage of any of my crashes. Thank some deity for the full coverage I had on, or life would be different now. It did wake me up finally to the need for ATGATT.


Before that I was helmet, jacket, gloves and boots all the time. Now its ATGATT
and its tough in the middle of the summer, even in New England.

In my way of thinking true ATGATT would be full leather or engineered riding suit. I do use two piece mesh with armor on hot days and it does worry me.
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In my way of thinking true ATGATT would be full leather or engineered riding suit. I do use two piece mesh with armor on hot days and it does worry me.
There is a lot of good info in this thread. I continue to be pleased with the Badlands gear. Single digits (with heated liners) up to 105-110°, no need to mess with a separate rain suit, and ceramic armor and/or Kevlar in the impact & abrasion areas.

For extended periods over 100°, I use the LD Comfort Cool Sleeve method, with added air scoops to help push air in. It works well, producing an active cooling system without ice and without a powered thermal exchange unit.
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Old 08-23-2018, 04:48 PM   #18
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ATGATT... Despite never having crashed after I gave up doing it in the dirt, back in the 1970's. Trees don't jump out in front of you, when you stay on the pavement :-)
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I'm more like MGMTT. Most gear most of the time. On long rides and many trips it was all the gear. On my commute the norm was full face helmet, gloves, ankle covering boots, often a jacket, and most of the time just jeans on the legs. Sometimes I'd go without the jacket but would usually have a long sleeve shirt (basically no more protection than a tshirt), and some times but not often I'd wear over-pants.
Exactly where I am.
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This is for daily riders whose primary means of transportation is motorcycles. Meaning if you need to go somewhere near or far you go on a motorcycle. All the gear all the time ? Two alls !
Long sleeve shirt is not ALL the gear.
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