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Old 01-22-2016, 07:43 AM   #21
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i like bosh, cause it is the same color as the motor/bike.
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Old 01-22-2016, 09:53 AM   #22
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Well $shit.

I went to look at my stash of filters..... Only have two left....
These were purchased at Wal-Mart, maybe four months ago.
I usually buy a half a dozen at a time.

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The filter end cap looks different than what I was used to for this filter. After so many years of using this filter, I just didn't pay any attention anymore.

Thinking back, I did notice that the threads seemed to bottom early on the last oil change. Soooo - I just removed the filter for a look-see. Yep.

Crap.

Now excuse me while I run off to the parts store to see if they have any of the older ones in stock......
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:29 AM   #23
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Fram here!
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Old 01-23-2016, 02:36 PM   #24
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Fram or Bosch, whatever is on special with the oil purchase.
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:04 AM   #25
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K&N for me, The aviation style nut on the end makes removal and installation a breeze.
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Old 01-25-2016, 06:53 AM   #26
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Here's a fix for the issue -- http://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index...g-oil-filters/
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Old 01-25-2016, 07:07 AM   #27
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Any chance you can share the details? Non-members can't view the thread..
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Old 01-25-2016, 07:43 AM   #28
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If you want to use aftermarket oil filters, you need this modification.

Problem: Non OEM oil filter manufacturers have changed the design of their filters in a way that makes them incompatible with the FJR. Specifically, the threaded part of the filter base, which used to be concave, is now convex, so when the filter is installed on an FJR, the threaded base bottoms out on the hex section of the FJR union bolt before the rubber oil ring is adequately compressed. Since the ring does not seal, oil leaks around it.

MODIFIED UNION BOLTS AVAILABLE.

Finally got a furnace installed in my garage, updated my tooling and worked out the details so I can make a batch of modified union bolts for those who want them.

Cost will be $30, including 1st class USPS in USA. Price includes a new union bolt, so you don't need to send me your old one.

Please order before April 1 (riding season starts and I'll be riding!)

How to order: PM me with your email address and say you want info on the FJR Union Bolt Modification.

You will receive a reply with an order form and instructions.

I have a few of these bolts in stock, that I can ship right away, but am at the mercy of Yamaha parts suppliers if we get into a back-order situation. (This is not a frequently needed replacement part!)

Here are some pics comparing modified and unmodified parts...

Stock union bolt screwed into a new-style "outie" filter.


The problem: Hex part of union bolt is too thick and prevents sealing compression of the rubber sealing


Union bolt before (Left) and after (Right) modification.


Modified union bolt screwed into new-style "outie" filter.


Modified union bolt provides additional clearance needed to compress rubber sealing ring.
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:21 AM   #29
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Yikes. I think I'll just go with filters that work.
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:12 PM   #30
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Yikes. I think I'll just go with filters that work.
Same here, I dont want to deal with the headache to save a couple of bucks.
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Old 01-25-2016, 02:58 PM   #31
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Baldwin filters. Worked at the factory for 18 months after I got out of the Army. No finer filters made anywhere IMHO.

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Old 01-26-2016, 01:08 PM   #32
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PL14610 puralators are fine, been using for years
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:28 PM   #33
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PL14610 puralators are fine, been using for years
Lately? See posts 18 and 22 above. They changed them. That's what this whole discussion is about.
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:37 AM   #34
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Lately? See posts 18 and 22 above. They changed them. That's what this whole discussion is about.
Yep. purchased from Advanced Auto Parts. end of December. maybe it was old stock? i think i saw that the shorter PL14612 were the ones affected. I always use the longer ones.

but I will definitely look it over next time I go to purchase one.
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:46 AM   #35
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All of the Purolators are affected. If anyone has the concave filters, then they are lucky enough to have old stock.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:00 AM   #36
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Am I an idiot for just using the OEM filter? Haha. Is there something wrong with them that I haven't read about compared to these other filters? Or is it just a price/availability thing? I live right by a parts store, so I can pick up the Yamaha filter easily for $10. Doesn't seem like the 3$ you save is worth hassle to keep up on changing filters and whatnot.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:16 AM   #37
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Am I an idiot for just using the OEM filter? Haha. Is there something wrong with them that I haven't read about compared to these other filters? Or is it just a price/availability thing? I live right by a parts store, so I can pick up the Yamaha filter easily for $10. Doesn't seem like the 3$ you save is worth hassle to keep up on changing filters and whatnot.
I kinda tend to think the same thing. I used Purolators all the time but now that they may not work I'll just stick with oem and not worry about it. I only have to change my oil once or at most twice a year anyway. Best part is I have a new dealership going up less than two miles from my house!
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #38
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:38 PM   #39
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Does Mobil 1 still have a concaved base? So far the fram 7317 is the only one i have found that still has a concaved base. I guess i will use the Fram if I can't find anything else.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:10 PM   #40
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Am I an idiot for just using the OEM filter? Haha. Is there something wrong with them that I haven't read about compared to these other filters? Or is it just a price/availability thing? I live right by a parts store, so I can pick up the Yamaha filter easily for $10. Doesn't seem like the 3$ you save is worth hassle to keep up on changing filters and whatnot.
How much cash are you guys saving by using something other than the OEM? Are the non-OEM filters 'that' much better? We're talking about a production motorcycle engine here, not a MotoGP engine, after all. Just curious.
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