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Old 04-14-2019, 10:01 PM   #1
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Gen2 - Passenger Peg Mount Cover

I'd guess there'd be a smaller market for something like this, but I'm still going to march forward with a prototype, because why not...

I saw something like this on Facebook a while back, but have no idea where it came from, and I've never seen anything like it for sale.

If you remove your left side passenger peg, you're left with these two peg mount 'humps.'



From the looks of it, we can print a small little plate to cover up those humps, and if the end user would want...Maybe even put some engraved graphic, or text or something on it...

Here's one idea I thought might be cool. I'd guess I couldn't offer the YAMAHA logo on it direct...however...Shapeways DOES offer the ability to drop text, IMAGE, or whatever onto surfaces to print on....Could be a cool possibility.



At any rate, just wanted to share. We're still a bit away from offering anything like this up. All but guaranteed this'll be under $10 for the cheaper material choice thru Shapeways in black.

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Old 04-15-2019, 06:20 AM   #2
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you think you can make it stick out a bit so it acts as a frame slider?
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:28 AM   #3
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anyway to put a helmet hook on that? or is the material not up to that kind of stress?
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:10 AM   #4
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you think you can make it stick out a bit so it acts as a frame slider?
That would worry me in two ways: structural integrity, and cost. For non-structural pieces, this type of 3d printing is awesome. There ARE options for very strong matierals, but I'm not sure if they'd be something that would stand up to the shock of a functional slider, ya know?

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anyway to put a helmet hook on that? or is the material not up to that kind of stress?
Oh for sure, I think that could be worked out. If what you're looking for is a place to hook a D-ring, and not put a helmet on a mirror stalk, or bar end...that's totally do-able and a 3d printed material would be fine for that.

I'm guessing there could be a 'hook' at the back end of the plate, that should be able to hold a few lbs for a helmet...I'll look more into that if that's cool with you.
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Old 04-15-2019, 10:36 AM   #6
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anyway to put a helmet hook on that? or is the material not up to that kind of stress?

Developed this as a product. Currently testing on the Satan Machine. Doesn't seem to get in the way. Easy key insert.


BTW: This is version 5.
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Fabbed a muffler bracket for the other side. SS 3/16 plate. Also currently testing.
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Developed this as a product. Currently testing on the Satan Machine. Doesn't seem to get in the way. Easy key insert.


BTW: This is version 5.
Anticipated cost? That's different than I would be able to offer, but I'm sure it's nice.

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Anticipated cost? That's different than I would be able to offer, but I'm sure it's nice.

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this. have the shock mount and pegs.. both first class
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Those of us with hard luggage would prefer this plate to be of a more sturdy material. Since those bolts are a top case hard mount point, it’s up to you wether you trust how tight the bolts are before you snap the plastic. Food for thought.
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Those of us with hard luggage would prefer this plate to be of a more sturdy material. Since those bolts are a top case hard mount point, it’s up to you wether you trust how tight the bolts are before you snap the plastic. Food for thought.
It sounds like there might be two uses for a cover like this.

01 - purely cosmetic

02 - heavier duty, for a cheaper option for a helmet hook. My original design intent was not to have something like what Satan666 looks to be marketing soon, with a locking function...

In either option, I would think a small dab of blue threadlock might be used, to eliminate the thought of snapping the material.

To be honest, I wasn't thinking about hard luggage users wanting something like this. I appreciate the dialog however.

What type of hard luggage do you have, and do you have a photo of how it connects to these points?

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I’m stuck 1200 miles from my bike, so no pictures of my bike this week.

But this pic should help you, it’s just a piece of 1/8(??)” plate steel that gets sandwiched between the subframe and the passenger pegs.

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I don't get the point if you have a rack there already. Isn't it just to fill the gap between the little loops if you have the peg mount removed?
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I don't get the point if you have a rack there already. Isn't it just to fill the gap between the little loops if you have the peg mount removed?
The bolts for the passenger foot pegs go through the Givi top case rack and thread into the subframe.

Edit: I just reread what you said and understand it now, 8 hours of driving and a plane ride has my brain scrambled. Would be just extra bling factor on the one side, would pair nice with the passenger peg delete exhaust hanger.

After thinking about it a bit more, those bolts aren’t really “load bearing”, most of the weight of your top case would rest on the rear two bolts that attach to the tab that sticks through the under tail splash shield. So I wouldn’t think you’d have to tighten these down enough that they warp the plastic.

I’d be out of the game on these anyway, side cases are lovely, and I need my passenger pegs to be able to mount the racks. Just thought I’d give my 1.5˘ for the people who are running a top case only.

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Old 04-16-2019, 10:16 AM   #15
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Just a quick cad table cut sample.

Production parts expected ~ $10 or so for black. Higher costs related to to any sort of helmet hanger/hook (without locking capability).

I know that a simple waterjet cut aluminum blank SHOULD be cheaper than a 3d printed part. Problem with that is the economy of scale. For that reason, plus the ability for low cost customization if requested....3d printing makes sense.

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I'll update this thread when they're ready. I ordered two different versions for myself last night. One flat plate version and one with a round on the front face, just for a bit of interest...

That looks something like this:

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Just last night I had a friend on fb post a picture of his solution for a helmet lock...

Looks like it's bolted thru the access panel stock location. Doesn't look too bad tucked up there either.

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Old 04-18-2019, 07:11 AM   #19
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Both of the samples I ordered are labelled as "In-Production" @ Shapeways. The ship date says May 14th, but I think the website lists that as a "worst-case" type situation.

I'd guess that there won't be too much issue with these, and they should be available soon.

Just wanted to provide a quick update. Cheers
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Not to throw a wrench in the works, but I would HIGHLY suggest adding a tie down loop to these. I just used these on my GSXR for loading for the track, but they can be a handy attachment point for a rok strap too.

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