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Old 02-27-2020, 06:27 AM   #61
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290 kit is the best option for that, but then you are starting to eat into part of the reliability that makes the WR so good. The Japanese 250's just don't have the grunt to do both. If you can live with the higher maintenance, the 2019 KTM/HQV 250's are selling out quickly now that they have been discontinued. Wouldn't be a terrible purchase as they get terrific mileage. If it's a commuter though, it won't be a great fit due to the frequent 10 minute oil changes and 30 minute valve checks. I regret selling my 350 except for the tall seat height.
Cool! Ya. The 350 is the one I have my eye on. Marginally larger/heavier but still very agile, and considerably more power relative to wr and probs the ktm 250. I've thought about going for the 500, but that's probably unnecessary. The added maintenance would be somewhat burdensome, but not a huge deal. It would be a toy, not a commuter.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:35 AM   #62
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Mine had over 50 hp after installing the Vortex ECU. It's not nearly as torquey as the 450 or 500 (friend has a Vortex ECU's '19 450 HQV, two others with 500's) but I like it much more than either of those in the woods and on trails. It would do easy roll-on wheelies in 2nd and power wheelies in 3rd. Much less likely to launch it or myself off the side of a mountain or into a tree. I'm digging the 2T trailbike life for now though, but I could switch from the 300 to the 200 and be fine for the putting around I do. I'd like a DS again but limited funds with too many other bikes and interests. My '19 300RR is not fun on the road for more than 4 or 5 minutes. I like the lower seat height of the Beta's, but the 2020 KTM/HQV are also a bit lower now.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:36 PM   #63
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Ironically, I知 out in big bend riding a new to me 2019 wr250r. So far I知 digging it.
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Old 02-27-2020, 08:06 PM   #64
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Ironically, I知 out in big bend riding a new to me 2019 wr250r. So far I知 digging it.
Nice. Enjoy!
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:11 PM   #65
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Ironically, I知 out in big bend riding a new to me 2019 wr250r. So far I知 digging it.
Nice! The WR is a great bike. Really, it left me nothing to want. Especially at the price I paid as outfitted as it was.

I am, however, looking for a panacea to quell the feeling of loss. Hence the notion of picking up a KTM.
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:01 PM   #66
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Old 02-29-2020, 07:46 PM   #67
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:27 PM   #68
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Ironically, I知 out in big bend riding a new to me 2019 wr250r. So far I知 digging it.
Looking forward to your report.

I dove into the KLX today. It needs some TLC. All the usual for a bike that's been sitting for several years. The wiring was done by a 3rd grader. It will need the standard grommet methods for wiring - water resistant, easy to maintain, etc.

The subframe may need some reinforcement for what I'm going to do with the bike.

It's fun working on such a lightweight bike.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:30 PM   #69
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Day one.

Bike performed very well. Did 50 miles of dirt, gravel and rocky terrain on Thursday with the centerpiece being a plateau aptly named Top of the World. I had one tip over due to bad line choice up a steep rocky hill. 18 riders went up one fella hurt his knee and had to be carefully escorted out.

This is the largest ride in terms of numbers that I have ever done off pavement. Nearly all of the riders had skillz.

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Old 03-05-2020, 07:38 PM   #70
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Nice! The WR is a great bike. Really, it left me nothing to want. Especially at the price I paid as outfitted as it was.

I am, however, looking for a panacea to quell the feeling of loss. Hence the notion of picking up a KTM.

Love my 2016 KTM 350 xcf-w. Had a 520 that was a fantastic machine but started to get long in the tooth and all my friends were buying new KTM 500's.

I also had a 250 xcf-w 6 days that was a real Beauty but it just wasn't enough power for me.

So I sold them both and split it down the middle.

I got the 350 no regrets, it's a great middle of the road bike but to keep up with the 500's on long straightaways and also for DUAL Sport purposes I geared it up quite a bit.

Took away some of the Instant Power although it did not have nearly what my 520 or CRF450 has but it's a good compromise.

Best part is I don't lose much on top end and I've even passed some of my buddies on their 500's in certain sections if I put on a surprise move and they are rather shocked as the little 350 pulls away....


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Old 03-06-2020, 07:50 AM   #71
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Which KTM are you looking at?
Either the exc-f 500 or the 350. I've also considered the 690 Enduro R, and the 790 Adventure R.

I'm almost inclined to trade my fjr for the adventure r. My fjr has been for sale for a while now at 7900 with virtually no interest, which has me a bit puzzled. On the other hand, for about the same out of pocket for the new Adventure R vs the fjr, I could keep the fjr and get one of those other bikes used. Decisions.

I may also be overestimating my use of a DS. I noticed with my DS rides there was a but more time commitment involved than my street rides. My street rides lately have been shorter, with a somewhat expeditious route home. When up in the mountain trails, that isnt always the case. The exploration is endless, and sometimes I'm a couple hours or more from pavement, and several away from the house, even if only a relatively few number of miles.

There probs will be something that will fit my needs. The more dirt-bike types trail riding is fun. The reality is a Tiger 800 or F800GS would fit my needs. I'd maybe even be interested in the T7, but it isnt available to decide on and that antiquated dash is off-putting. I'm actually also just irritated that Yamaha has had the bike i production for 2 years and it STILL hasn't landed in US stores. Wtf!?!? It is like that Guns N Rose's album that they were supposed to be releasing for like 10 years (I'm not a GnR fan really, but still).

But, yes, I think for a DS, the exc-f line has a lot of appeal.

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Old 03-06-2020, 07:52 AM   #72
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Love my 2016 KTM 350 xcf-w. Had a 520 that was a fantastic machine but started to get long in the tooth and all my friends were buying new KTM 500's.

I also had a 250 xcf-w 6 days that was a real Beauty but it just wasn't enough power for me.

So I sold them both and split it down the middle.

I got the 350 no regrets, it's a great middle of the road bike but to keep up with the 500's on long straightaways and also for DUAL Sport purposes I geared it up quite a bit.

Took away some of the Instant Power although it did not have nearly what my 520 or CRF450 has but it's a good compromise.

Best part is I don't lose much on top end and I've even passed some of my buddies on their 500's in certain sections if I put on a surprise move and they are rather shocked as the little 350 pulls away....


Nice shot! Yeah, for dirt I doubt more than the 350 is really necessary. The lighter weight is preferable too.
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:30 AM   #73
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I take all that uncertainty about DS riding back. I did 70 miles on my bros wr250r this am. While the stock shock is a bit undertuned, I had tons of fun! The dirt is tacky and Cal Fire/Forest Service has been trimming bushes; the ground is covered in mulch trimmings in spots which makes ripping so so easy.
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Old 03-06-2020, 11:36 AM   #74
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for a DS, the exc-f line has a lot of appeal.

Yep you cannot go wrong with a KTM it's a very proven machine for it's purpose.

Surprisingly the 500 does not weigh that much more than the 350 it's the mass of the engine rotating Force that really differentiates between the two.

The 350 likes to be revved out where the 500 power is mostly in the low to mid-range and deceleration also feels a lot different.

Thanks for the props on the picture I love riding out here in the Southwest. So I take it you no longer live in Glendale I thought I read where you live near the Big Bear area that's some good riding up there too.
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Old 03-06-2020, 12:19 PM   #75
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for a DS, the exc-f line has a lot of appeal.

Yep you cannot go wrong with a KTM it's a very proven machine for it's purpose.

Surprisingly the 500 does not weigh that much more than the 350 it's the mass of the engine rotating Force that really differentiates between the two.

The 350 likes to be revved out where the 500 power is mostly in the low to mid-range and deceleration also feels a lot different.

Thanks for the props on the picture I love riding out here in the Southwest. So I take it you no longer live in Glendale I thought I read where you live near the Big Bear area that's some good riding up there too.
Ya, I'm at a deadlock as to which to get (if any). It is find to wind out a bike. It is also nice to have all the power you might need.

Yes, I moved further inland from Glendale. I'm in Redlands now. I need to update my profile.

I imagine you have plenty of awesome riding in AZ too? The extended fam is planning a trip to Sedona in June. I'm thinking I should try to have a DS for that trip and map out some rides.

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