Who's switched from one gen to another?

eflyguy · 10-22-2010, 05:17 PM

For whatever reason - by choice, or not - who's made the switch? I'm curious to hear thoughts on the differences from those that have owned both.
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Freezin · 10-22-2010, 05:23 PM

Oh no, this should be interesting! Lol. Seriously though, I've had a hard time deciding whether to just keep my Gen1 or go Gen2 so I'm interested in hearing too.

MARK BYRD · 10-22-2010, 05:37 PM

It easy!!! if you want more of a sportbike go with the Gen2.

jep · 10-22-2010, 06:07 PM

I put 24,000 miles on a Gen 1 in 3 years before totalling it.
I bought a Gen 2 this year and have only put 2000 miles on it so far.

I liked the touring comfort and range of the Gen 1. The extra 50 to 70 miles on a tank of gas is really missed.

The Gen 2 "feels" better to me in almost every other way. The center of gravity feels lower, it feels like it turns in better. I didn't think Gen 1s looked "old" until you see one next to a Gen 2. The on/off of the fuel injection makes me crazy.

My

750nut · 10-22-2010, 06:39 PM

Would make a great poll.

CrazyBiker · 10-22-2010, 07:00 PM

ridden both .. other than the fuel range, gen2 all the way... mpg was also equal

Rockin SV · 10-22-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP

I put 24,000 miles on a Gen 1 in 3 years before totalling it.
I bought a Gen 2 this year and have only put 2000 miles on it so far.

I liked the touring comfort and range of the Gen 1. The extra 50 to 70 miles on a tank of gas is really missed.

The Gen 2 "feels" better to me in almost every other way. The center of gravity feels lower, it feels like it turns in better. I didn't think Gen 1s looked "old" until you see one next to a Gen 2. The on/off of the fuel injection makes me crazy.

My

I'm curious about your problems with the fuel injection, is your bike an '06? Have you tried a Power Commander? Or is there still on/off problems with these mods too?

hunter-scout · 10-22-2010, 07:54 PM

elfguy, you'll just need ivan's fce and no problem with the mega snatch with roll on after chop in twisties.

You'll have to put the money into the mods, too, for g2. Lower bars are totally necessary for twisties. But once you got it all done, the g2 will just make ya glow after each and EVERY loop.

Crap, I'm going thru withdrawals today as we had heavy drizzle getting everything wet around here. Rain all weekend, too.

SO, you looking to move into a g2?

homsh · 10-22-2010, 09:20 PM

I had 2 gen1s then decided what the heck and got an 06 Gen2. Hated the bike, the fuel injection drove me nuts (yes I had a fce) and the suspension was crap. I had a gen1 a gen2 and a bandit 1250 all at the same time. The gen2 was the first to go then the bandit and now I have a just about perfectly (to me) setup gen1. Wont be switching again.

CrazyBiker · 10-22-2010, 10:47 PM

gen1 suspension last I heard is crappier.

eflyguy · 10-23-2010, 03:40 AM

I knew I should have posted that I'm not really looking to switch, just curious for long-term impressions between the two. Of course, it's always in the back of my mind, especially when these deals pop up within reasonable distance..

Suspension is going to need to be set up/mod'd for every rider, I would expect you can get both to work equally well? Although I'm sure there's benefits to the inverted forks on the later models.

My throttle comes on hard, it's fine once you have a little dialed in, very easy to control, but from full "off" to even "just a little" is a very brutal transition. I had a 'moment' yesterday, had to slow quickly turning onto a small side street from 60-mph traffic flow on a divided highway, and felt the back step out as I rolled it on again. I keep wondering if there's a way to 'soften' that initial 'bite' on the throttle on a carb'd bike.

Anyway, keep it coming!

..a

chaparral · 10-23-2010, 04:06 AM

Me Me me

My gen1 (traded in for gen2)

My gen2

homsh · 10-23-2010, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyBiker

gen1 suspension last I heard is crappier.

Well I guess u heard wrong.

upinsmoke · 10-23-2010, 06:20 AM

Read this: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...t=switched+Gen

jep · 10-23-2010, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin SV

I'm curious about your problems with the fuel injection, is your bike an '06? Have you tried a Power Commander? Or is there still on/off problems with these mods too?

No PC yet. It will be a cheap fix for the on/off transition next spring.

I'd add that the lack of range is really only a problem on very long day rides and touring (like when I want to ride for 3 hours without a break). When I use the bike for commuting, it's not a problem.

homsh · 10-23-2010, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upinsmoke

Read this: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...t=switched+Gen

Yeah I'm sure his suspension was great after over $2k in upgrades. Stock it sucks. The rear shock is non adjustable non rebuildable garbage and the front end is fair at best.

upinsmoke · 10-23-2010, 09:40 AM

^JD's suspension was stock, the Gen1 was upgraded. It would appear the Gen1 suspension is lacking some, the Gen2 is a little harsh on the high speed comp.

CrazyBiker · 10-23-2010, 10:01 AM

Not to mention JD's is stock tired one with over 20k miles. I donnow he has serviced them yet though.

hunter-scout · 10-23-2010, 10:01 AM

I installed hyper pro shock which I like a lot. And I love the stock forks on the 06.

soxfan · 10-23-2010, 12:25 PM

I own both a gen 1 and gen 2 both modified with some performance goodies. I purchased my 2004 gen 1 skunk in 2005 as a left over and put almost 20K mile on it so far. This past spring I got the bug to purchase a gen 2 and got an 07 in cobalt blue. Like others have said the gen 1 has more fuel range by ~50 - 75 miles due to a slightly larger tank. The Gen 1 also is very comfortable to ride on very long days. Longest day this year for me was a little over 550 miles on the gen 1. I was comfortable all day.
The gen 2 is a sportier version of the gen1. less fuel range not as comfortable on really long days (for me any way. your experience may vary) The Gen 2 is quicker to turn in due to the geometry of the bike. The set up is more sport than sport tour. I do enjoy the aggressive ergos of my gen 2 especially on the tight twisty back roads.

The suspension on my gen 2 feels better than my gen 1 (both are stock set-ups for now). The gen 1 feels softer and the gen 2 is firmer.

Fuel injection vs carburated is another difference. The FI just cranks right up where the carbs need some choke and idle time. no big deal either way, but FI is a little nicer.

The gauge clusters are analog (dials with needles) on the gen 1 and digital (with analog tach) on the gen2. It is much easier to see your speed with a quick glance down with the gen2 digital display.

bottom line is they are both really great bikes!!! it is a hard choice to make if you had to chose just one. it all really depends on your riding style and your personality.

One last thought... Gen1's are abundant and can be purchased fairly cheap these days. So if you are budget minded you can have a really great gen 1 for around $3500 with plenty of goodies already on it. The motors are almost indestructable and will last a very lone time if cared for properly. Gen 2's can also be had sorta cheap but not as cheap as the Gen1 these days.

hope this helps.

10-22-2010, 05:17 PM	#1
eflyguy FZ1² Join Date: May 2010 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 14,593	Who's switched from one gen to another? For whatever reason - by choice, or not - who's made the switch? I'm curious to hear thoughts on the differences from those that have owned both. ..a __________________ '01 FZ1 set up for distance '07 FZ1 set up for fun (both in the faster blue) Which would you prefer?

10-22-2010, 05:37 PM	#3
MARK BYRD crash dummy Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: GRAY GA Posts: 3,765	It easy!!! if you want more of a sportbike go with the Gen2. __________________ Tire killer!!!!!!!!

10-22-2010, 06:39 PM	#5
750nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 544	Would make a great poll. __________________ 100,000 Mile Club

10-22-2010, 07:00 PM	#6
CrazyBiker Torque Maniac Join Date: May 2008 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 4,863	ridden both .. other than the fuel range, gen2 all the way... mpg was also equal __________________ 2007 Raven FZ1-R Penske 8983 Shock\|08 R1 Forks,MC\|HyperPro Damper HEL SS Lines\|3-way Adj Levers\|Easton Low Bars\|Giles Rearsets Micron Full System\|Lars AB\|BMC Filter\|Roth Stacks,AIE\|CD Flies\|FCE\|PC5\|SHv4 CF Cowl,Fender,PB Hugger T-Rex Frame,Axle Sliders\|Targa FE Spencer Seat\|Puig DB\|Gripsters Heated Grips\|HIDs\|Protons Givi V35s\|Shad 25 2006 Daytona 675-R Ohlins TTX shock\|GPR V4 Damper\|Attack Rearsets\|Pazzos\|2Bro Slip-on\|Saddlemen\|Seat Cowl\|HIDs

10-22-2010, 09:20 PM	#9
homsh Plotting your demise Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,680	I had 2 gen1s then decided what the heck and got an 06 Gen2. Hated the bike, the fuel injection drove me nuts (yes I had a fce) and the suspension was crap. I had a gen1 a gen2 and a bandit 1250 all at the same time. The gen2 was the first to go then the bandit and now I have a just about perfectly (to me) setup gen1. Wont be switching again. __________________ Originally Posted by quazz To me if you boil down the US to one person he would be a Flyers fan.

10-22-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
Freezin Oh no Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Duluth Mn Posts: 838	Oh no, this should be interesting! Lol. Seriously though, I've had a hard time deciding whether to just keep my Gen1 or go Gen2 so I'm interested in hearing too.

10-22-2010, 06:07 PM	#4
jep Life is Good! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Olympic Peninsula Posts: 2,969	I put 24,000 miles on a Gen 1 in 3 years before totalling it. I bought a Gen 2 this year and have only put 2000 miles on it so far. I liked the touring comfort and range of the Gen 1. The extra 50 to 70 miles on a tank of gas is really missed. The Gen 2 "feels" better to me in almost every other way. The center of gravity feels lower, it feels like it turns in better. I didn't think Gen 1s looked "old" until you see one next to a Gen 2. The on/off of the fuel injection makes me crazy. My

10-22-2010, 07:54 PM	#8
hunter-scout Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Babylon West, San Francisco Posts: 7,067	elfguy, you'll just need ivan's fce and no problem with the mega snatch with roll on after chop in twisties. You'll have to put the money into the mods, too, for g2. Lower bars are totally necessary for twisties. But once you got it all done, the g2 will just make ya glow after each and EVERY loop. Crap, I'm going thru withdrawals today as we had heavy drizzle getting everything wet around here. Rain all weekend, too. SO, you looking to move into a g2?

10-22-2010, 10:47 PM	#10
CrazyBiker Torque Maniac Join Date: May 2008 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 4,863	gen1 suspension last I heard is crappier. __________________ 2007 Raven FZ1-R Penske 8983 Shock\|08 R1 Forks,MC\|HyperPro Damper HEL SS Lines\|3-way Adj Levers\|Easton Low Bars\|Giles Rearsets Micron Full System\|Lars AB\|BMC Filter\|Roth Stacks,AIE\|CD Flies\|FCE\|PC5\|SHv4 CF Cowl,Fender,PB Hugger T-Rex Frame,Axle Sliders\|Targa FE Spencer Seat\|Puig DB\|Gripsters Heated Grips\|HIDs\|Protons Givi V35s\|Shad 25 2006 Daytona 675-R Ohlins TTX shock\|GPR V4 Damper\|Attack Rearsets\|Pazzos\|2Bro Slip-on\|Saddlemen\|Seat Cowl\|HIDs

10-23-2010, 03:40 AM	#11
eflyguy FZ1² Join Date: May 2010 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 14,593	I knew I should have posted that I'm not really looking to switch, just curious for long-term impressions between the two. Of course, it's always in the back of my mind, especially when these deals pop up within reasonable distance.. Suspension is going to need to be set up/mod'd for every rider, I would expect you can get both to work equally well? Although I'm sure there's benefits to the inverted forks on the later models. My throttle comes on hard, it's fine once you have a little dialed in, very easy to control, but from full "off" to even "just a little" is a very brutal transition. I had a 'moment' yesterday, had to slow quickly turning onto a small side street from 60-mph traffic flow on a divided highway, and felt the back step out as I rolled it on again. I keep wondering if there's a way to 'soften' that initial 'bite' on the throttle on a carb'd bike. Anyway, keep it coming! ..a __________________ '01 FZ1 set up for distance '07 FZ1 set up for fun (both in the faster blue) Which would you prefer?

10-23-2010, 04:06 AM	#12
chaparral Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Guernsey channel islands uk (35mph max speed limit) Posts: 1,090	Me Me me My gen1 (traded in for gen2) My gen2 __________________ 08 Graphite grey FZ1 ABS.. Yoshi CF R-77 Full system, FCE, Ivans Flies, PC-V + Autotune Kit, DNA Aifilter & Airbox Mod, Speedo healer ,16T front gen1 sprocket, Sargent front & rear seats, Fender eliminator, CA Intergated Rear Led, MRA Vario Screen , Givi mono rack & V46 topbox, Oxford heated grips

10-23-2010, 06:20 AM	#14
upinsmoke What ya gonna do about it Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NC Posts: 3,345	Read this: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...t=switched+Gen __________________ 07 FZ1 - 16/47 : Two Bros w/P1-R : Cat gutted : PC3(Modified E map) : Air Box Mod(Lars) : No Flies : BMC : AIS plugged : Targa FE : LP short stalk V's : FZ6 rubber foot rests : Rearset washer mod : Puig race screen(Cut down 5 9/16") : Graves sliders : Yamaha gel seat : SpeedoHealer V4 : Rizoma Reverse Retro mirrors : Machined down stock bar-ends 7/8" : Rizoma mirror covers : Forks raised 4mm : Hyperpro rear spring(black) : Current tires, BT016 Pro : "Drop the Clutch"

10-23-2010, 09:40 AM	#17
upinsmoke What ya gonna do about it Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NC Posts: 3,345	^JD's suspension was stock, the Gen1 was upgraded. It would appear the Gen1 suspension is lacking some, the Gen2 is a little harsh on the high speed comp. __________________ 07 FZ1 - 16/47 : Two Bros w/P1-R : Cat gutted : PC3(Modified E map) : Air Box Mod(Lars) : No Flies : BMC : AIS plugged : Targa FE : LP short stalk V's : FZ6 rubber foot rests : Rearset washer mod : Puig race screen(Cut down 5 9/16") : Graves sliders : Yamaha gel seat : SpeedoHealer V4 : Rizoma Reverse Retro mirrors : Machined down stock bar-ends 7/8" : Rizoma mirror covers : Forks raised 4mm : Hyperpro rear spring(black) : Current tires, BT016 Pro : "Drop the Clutch"

10-23-2010, 10:01 AM	#18
CrazyBiker Torque Maniac Join Date: May 2008 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 4,863	Not to mention JD's is stock tired one with over 20k miles. I donnow he has serviced them yet though. __________________ 2007 Raven FZ1-R Penske 8983 Shock\|08 R1 Forks,MC\|HyperPro Damper HEL SS Lines\|3-way Adj Levers\|Easton Low Bars\|Giles Rearsets Micron Full System\|Lars AB\|BMC Filter\|Roth Stacks,AIE\|CD Flies\|FCE\|PC5\|SHv4 CF Cowl,Fender,PB Hugger T-Rex Frame,Axle Sliders\|Targa FE Spencer Seat\|Puig DB\|Gripsters Heated Grips\|HIDs\|Protons Givi V35s\|Shad 25 2006 Daytona 675-R Ohlins TTX shock\|GPR V4 Damper\|Attack Rearsets\|Pazzos\|2Bro Slip-on\|Saddlemen\|Seat Cowl\|HIDs

10-23-2010, 12:25 PM	#20
soxfan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northbridge,MA Posts: 180	I own both a gen 1 and gen 2 both modified with some performance goodies. I purchased my 2004 gen 1 skunk in 2005 as a left over and put almost 20K mile on it so far. This past spring I got the bug to purchase a gen 2 and got an 07 in cobalt blue. Like others have said the gen 1 has more fuel range by ~50 - 75 miles due to a slightly larger tank. The Gen 1 also is very comfortable to ride on very long days. Longest day this year for me was a little over 550 miles on the gen 1. I was comfortable all day. The gen 2 is a sportier version of the gen1. less fuel range not as comfortable on really long days (for me any way. your experience may vary) The Gen 2 is quicker to turn in due to the geometry of the bike. The set up is more sport than sport tour. I do enjoy the aggressive ergos of my gen 2 especially on the tight twisty back roads. The suspension on my gen 2 feels better than my gen 1 (both are stock set-ups for now). The gen 1 feels softer and the gen 2 is firmer. Fuel injection vs carburated is another difference. The FI just cranks right up where the carbs need some choke and idle time. no big deal either way, but FI is a little nicer. The gauge clusters are analog (dials with needles) on the gen 1 and digital (with analog tach) on the gen2. It is much easier to see your speed with a quick glance down with the gen2 digital display. bottom line is they are both really great bikes!!! it is a hard choice to make if you had to chose just one. it all really depends on your riding style and your personality. One last thought... Gen1's are abundant and can be purchased fairly cheap these days. So if you are budget minded you can have a really great gen 1 for around $3500 with plenty of goodies already on it. The motors are almost indestructable and will last a very lone time if cared for properly. Gen 2's can also be had sorta cheap but not as cheap as the Gen1 these days. hope this helps. __________________ 2007 Gen II Cobalt Blue \| Ivans FCE \| MIVV GP CF slip-on \| Tech Spec tank pads \| frame sliders \| CD flies \| PC3 \| Lars air box mod \| de-screened stock air filter \| cat gut \| CF chin cowl \| Jwhelan rad screen \|

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