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Old 04-06-2008, 09:37 AM   #1
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Tire mount and demount tool.

Hey guys & gals it's been a while.

In my search for a good tire mount demount tool I ended up fabricating my own and made a few extra's to pay for the cost of mine, so I have a few for sale. Basically I used the mojo mount end and the no-mar demount end. I didn't like the square stock used for the mojo and the mount end for the no-mar is a pain in the butt to use. Here's a couple of pictures of the one I made for myself. If any of you guys or gals are interested then you can pm me. I'm asking $75 for the tool and they will be unpainted. I don't know yet what it's gonna cost for shipping this thing yet. Both the mojo and the no-mar sell for $99. Shipping is included with the mojo.

I used uhmw on the mount end and the bobbins are made of delrin which is a bit more durable then uhmw. You will need to hit the bobbin end with a shot of silicon before each demount just to lube it up for smooth operation. Uhm is self lubricating. Delrin is also but not quite as much. The delrin bobbin has a 1/4" hole drilled through it will a grade 8 case hardened bolt all the way through the hole. The bolt is notched and a 1" x 1/8" dia compression pin is inserted through the 1" tube steel to hold it all in place.

We have tested the tool and it works like a champ. So much so that the first buyer has his no-mar tire tool up for sale. My days of them damn tire irons is over.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:39 AM   #2
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Hey Dave!! Good to see you back around here.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:08 AM   #3
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I visit every now and then but never post anymore. I figured I'd give the forum members a shot at getting one of these tools before they are all gone. They take a while to fabricate so I probably won't be building another lot of them. I'm not making much on them when you consider the TIME it takes to make them including the lathe work. I'll end up putting the rest of them on ebay.

I'm kind of surprised at the lack of response? I would have loved to have one of these when I first started changing my own tires. Again, I hate them damn tire irons.

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Old 04-07-2008, 09:02 AM   #4
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Can these be used without a tire changing machine?

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Old 04-07-2008, 09:21 AM   #5
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Can these be used without a tire changing machine?

You need to have some way of holding the tire down with a steel rod coming up through the center, like on most motorcycle changers. Check out the links below for more details on how to use it. I use an old car rim mounted to my bench with a 3/4 threaded rod to hold the tire to the rim and the rim to the bench.

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:45 PM   #6
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I have a Harbour freight changer and I think this will work better than the tire irons that scratched the crap out of the EX 500 wheels that I practiced on. I have sent you a PM.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:59 PM   #7
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Looks great. If you can produce this for less than the no-mar I'm sure you could sell quite a few. I've been eyeballin the no-mar but havent pulled the trigger yet. So what do ya think you could make em for?
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:15 PM   #8
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Looks great. If you can produce this for less than the no-mar I'm sure you could sell quite a few. I've been eyeballin the no-mar but havent pulled the trigger yet. So what do ya think you could make em for?
It's a hell of a lot of work to make them your self which means doing EVERY thing. Cutting/grinding/sanding/fitting/welding/lathe turning. I figured with the 7 of them I fabricated I made about $12 an hour. They are just very time consuming to make if your doing it by hand which is why the $75 I'm asking is fair. If the process was more automated and not as complicated to fab there would be more profit in doing it.

I could probably sell them for the same price as the no-mar and the mojo but then you have to deal with warranty issues. My plan was just to make my self one and a few others to offer a cheaper alternative to DIY people like me. I never planned on going to production with them since I pretty much used other guys designs. If I come up with my own design that is better then what I have now then I might do some production.

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Old 04-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #9
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I have a Harbour freight changer and I think this will work better than the tire irons that scratched the crap out of the EX 500 wheels that I practiced on. I have sent you a PM.
Thanks for the purchase. It will ship out tomorrow. Your gonna love this tool if you been using tire irons.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:39 PM   #10
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I'd be glad to provide the spec's on what I fabricated if anyone is interested and has the capability to make there own.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:09 AM   #11
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If you throw in a spare tip or two, I'll take one!
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:38 AM   #12
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:48 PM   #14
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Right now I don't have any extra tips available. However you really shouldn't need one. My tips are made of delrin and delrin has a much higher tensile strength then uhmw. The no-mar tips are made from uhmw. I talked to the no-mar people and they stated there tips are good for 30 goldwing tires or 2000 normal tires. I have a Valkyrie which has the same rear tire as the wing and I can attest to to it being the WORST tire to change.

The delrin tips should last a lifetime under normal use. You will just need to hit the tip with a shot of silicone each time you demount a tire. I'd recommend using a shot of silicone for each side of the tire. Just make sure when demounting using the tool that the opposite side of the tire is in the smaller part of the rim just like when using tire irons. I use two or three pieces of treated wood 3/4" x 2 x 4 and stuff them between the rim and the tire to keep the tire off the high spot of the rim. You should do this for mounting and demounting. The same rules apply to tire changing using this tool as they do using tire irons.

If you do break a tip though I'll be around to fix you up for basically the cost of the parts which isn't much. Remember just because you have a big tool doesn't mean you can muscle it and make it work for you. A tire is still a tire. A cold tire is harder to mount then a warm tire. Just use common sense.

The first guy to buy the tool has 6 bikes and does a lot of track days both him and his son and he's been using it and telling me the delrin tip is working smooth as butter. His no-mar uhmw tip was pretty chewed up and bent a bit and it was still working so I don't think you'll have any problems. He didn't receive extra tips with his and he's had if for years now. I hope this answer's your questions.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:56 PM   #15
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Thanks guys,
There's only one left now.
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:24 PM   #16
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Sorry for the double post. I was wondering what happened to ALL the text I typed.
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:32 PM   #17
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This is for the guys that purchased the tool and for anyone else interested. The mojo website DOES NOT make it clear when using the mount end. Check the picture out below. It's real IMPORTANT. There's nothing more frustrating then buying something new and it not working the way it's supposed to.

Notice the arrow! The lip of the tire MUST be overlapping the flat part of the mount end of the tool. The downward force of the tire on top of the flat end of the tool is what keeps the mount end of the tool firmly on the rim. Once the mount end of the tool is in the proper position as illustrated in the picture you can then turn the tool clockwise to mount the tire.
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I'll take one...if you still have it Dave.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #19
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I'll take one...if you still have it Dave.

Here's the ebay link. Last one man!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...241617214&rd=1
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Old 07-05-2008, 01:09 PM   #20
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I ended up making another batch by request for a group of guys on the Aprilla Forum and I have 3 extra's left. The first buyer of the tire tool rides an Aprilla and told his buddies on the forum hence the extra's. Anyone interested? $85 shipped priority mail.

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